DSA Nominations Tonight… Make Sure You Do Your Part

We’ve talked a lot about the upcoming election for the Sheriff, but tonight the DSA has a very important moment for itself.  They will be nominating the majority of the board that will control a portion of the tone and manner of the working relationship between you and your administration (whomever that may be) over the next two years.

You have a voice here, you have a responsibility here.  You have some control on who is going to go to bat for you at the negotiating table, who will (or won’t) file a grievance for you when the office fails to act appropriately, who will bring solutions and fresh ideas to the table.  These are the people who are watching your back and fighting for you when you need someone there. 

Because of the timing, because of the possibility of having to deal with this Sheriff for more years if she wins (we hope not, but let’s hedge our bets in all future possibilities) this may be one of the most important nominations and election processes for your DSA in some time.  Are you going to risk the Sheriff’s people making nominations that will fill the seats with people who will favor her?

Please take the few hours tonight to invest in bettering this office through strong DSA nominations.  We all have to be a part of the solution, no more allowing others to carry the water alone.

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15 thoughts on “DSA Nominations Tonight… Make Sure You Do Your Part

  1. http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/overcoming-stubborn-obstacles

    I was doing my routine Saturday morning reading while waiting for my kids to finish their workout class. I glanced over this article. I didn’t know why, but I correlated it with our current DSA Board. You need to read the article first, then agree or disagree with my correlation.

    I saw the South African Government as our DSA Board when we ask them for clarification or directly ask them a question, they’ll dance around it or tell us they will investigate.

    For example:
    It was directly asked of the Board whether or not, they’ve contacted an Agency (within our southern part of our County) and told them that our guys will not work for their big event. The Board denied any any knowledge and took a step further by saying they will investigate this issue. That contact had cost us six additional positions each day on the weekend (totaling 12 positions). This concern was addressed during our Tuesday July 30th at 1730 hrs meeting at the POA hall. As of today, no member have received an answer. In the same meeting, another member asked if the board had contacted the Chief of yet another City that is looking for additional event personnel to assist them in future events. The VP replied, we can’t speak about this at this time. It seems that every time we question their tactics or lack of, they’ll give us the same empty promises and continue to do what one person that seems to be running the DSA with her vengeance against the Sheriff’s Office. We are the Sheriff’s Office not one disgruntled has been that is ready to go to pasture. What I say to her is go and enjoy your retirement let the DSA Board think on their own two feet. We need the newer deputies to be more involved in the DSA. Because you are our future not the one that’s ready to be put to pasture. Keep politics out of our business. Let’s stay united and keep the outside influence out of our everyday business. I can almost promise you, by getting rid of the bad influence that’s controlling our board; we will see a change for the better. I’ve experienced this with the old CPOA were they’ve started being disgruntle, then the grievances started until they’ve started with the law suits. That’s the reason why the County didn’t give them as good of a deal as they did us. We need negotiators not disgruntle grievance writers. I’m calling a membership wide Code-30 to help and guide the DSA board. Make your own decisions. Don’t allow the disgruntle, one person that’s ready to be put to pasture, control the board.

    God Bless America and all of the members of the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office.

    A Very Proud Deputy!!!

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    • First off I would like to thank you for taking the time to comment (the more new people the better). Reading your post does raise a few questions. I was at the SJ POA meeting and remember the discussion. It struck me (and several others) as more of an ambush rather than a legit question. Both the Lt. & the Sgt. who began firing off these accusations before KJ was set to talk (I seem to remember this Lt. being concerned about airing our “dirty laundry” in the past but had no problem doing this in front of our CPOA brethren) seemed focused on simple mayhem For those of us in attendance when the DSA board asked who contacted Gilroy PD or Santa Clara’s Chief neither the Lt. nor the Sgt. could provide any names but you were insistent that it had been a member of the board. Why are you so insistent on believing someone from another agency over members of our own board? What possible reason would the DSA board have to gain by doing this? It was not even the Lt’s rep that responded to your question but to use your own verbiage, you appear to be so disgruntled towards her that YOU have the personal vendetta. The VP could not speak to the issue because neither YOU nor the Sgt. could provide any names.

      I could make unsubstantiated accusations too, say for instance that I heard from some other agency the South County Lt. & the Sgt. involved in this issue are in fact in the Sheriff’s pocket. How would you go about proving me wrong? Could you “speak to that” or provide an answer even after the passage of two months?

      My advice is this, if you feel you could do a better job…..then get out of the shadows, stop simply complaining and run!! Did you even nominate anyone? Quit throwing around lofty ideals, barbs and personal attacks that single out the Lt’s rep and run for the position yourself!! This board that you seem so convinced is doing such a bad job is the reason we had such a favorable outcome on our last contract negotiations (Not because the CPOA has filed grievances. That actually caused me to chuckle). The Lt. you seem to hate so much was on that board and had a hand in not only preventing a “blood bath” but actually getting us a small raise and our holidays back. Think of that before you push her out to pasture.

      PS…care to share who’d you’d feel is best suited for the board?

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      • I think this blog is a step in the right direction where people are actually exchanging ideas and opinions.

        Just to clarify few things on the remarks you noted regarding the South county Lt and the Sgt involved in this issue. That’s what your favorite Lt’s Rep is spreading those exact rumors at her place of work. In fact, your favorite Lt’s Rep didn’t represent her rank properly. She cost some of the Lieutenants that she was suppose to look out for, a major monthly financial hardship. Your favorite Lt’s Rep offered the County their take-home cars in return for overtime. I spoke with most of the Lieutenants and they all agreed that they never knew or would have even agreed to such nonsense. We have Fourteen Lieutenants, I invite any member to stop one of them, on the member’s break of course, and ask them how they feel about the take home cars being taken.

        In regards to the Lt and the Sgt in question, I think they mentioned Capt Svardal and the Santa Clara Police Chief. Those aren’t empty accusations, they all could be vetted. And it is in our (members) best interest to have the checks and balances for any member to do so.

        In regards to the nominations, out of the four nominees:

        Morrissey – too soon to be unbiased

        Tracey – needs to stay awake during the meeting – Still too close to your favorite Lt’s Rep, so nothing will change.

        Ray Davis – has the experience and he’s unbiased, would have been a good choice

        Jensen – has experience and still young enough to be part of the future of this department.

        We are a young department with the exception of the few. We need to have all of the members to be represented fairly. And in order to do so, we need 100% participation.

        I am not asking anyone to believe what I am saying, but to ask questions and find out for yourselves.

        God Bless America and every member of the Santa Clara Sheriff’s Office.

        A Very Proud Deputy!!!

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        • I’m a little confused and confounded by your statements. In one breath your saying we all need to stick together and the DSA needs to look out for all it’s members, but in the next your saying that DSA Lt’s rep “failed” the 14 Lt’s. I was trying to determine if you actually meant what you said so I’ve re-read your posts to make sure I got it right.

          So your claiming the DSA Lt’s rep bartered away a “perk” for Lt’s in order to save money from being cut in other places that could have resulted in ALL members taking a pay cut. So now a Lt actually has to work OT in order to get the extra money? What I’d like to know is how does a Lt NOT having a county car count as a “major monthly financial hardship?” Don’t Lt’s make 30% MORE money than a Deputy? Can’t the Lt afford to pay for their own gas? Don’t the Deputies & almost all Sgt’s sooommmmme how manage to pay for their own gas out of their own pockets? What makes these Lt’s that you spoke with so special that their “perk” should cost the vast majority of the DSA members an ACTUAL financial hardship in the form of a pay reduction or loss of an actual benefit. Isn’t your line of thinking (whining) more in line with the admin and their sense of entitlement? I wonder if the Lt’s you speak of actually gave you the authority to speak for them in such a selfish and self centered tone. So that’s your beef with the DSA Lt’s rep?? You have the temerity to call her petty???? Really?

          As for your endorsements, yeah Ray would make a good candidate but he’s not interested. As for Morrisey being “too soon” and Jensen being a good candidate with “experience” (less than 3 months as a Sgt) maybe you should offer the same advice as you proffered re: the Lt’s and that’s to have them speak to these candidates directly. Just a parting idea, but backbones are supposed to be solid and hold a body up under stress. They should not be made of jello that is bought with an ironed on emblem. One of these candidates has proven what theirs is made of and I guess the others have yet to show where they stand.

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          • I am sorry you’re confused and maybe that’s why it’s a good idea that I’m asking members to vet all of the information that’s flying around for themselves. As I said before and continue to say, I am not asking anyone to believe what I’m saying is right, wrong or indifference. in fact, I suggested and strongly recommend that all of the DSA members vet all of the information and /or misinformation that’s out there for themselves.

            In regards to the take-home cars, I spoke with few of the Lt’s that were affected by the hardship, I was told by them that the take-home cars weren’t part of any planned takeaways by the County. In fact, we didn’t gain or lose anything in lieu of the cars. By giving Lieutenants OT didn’t gain us or protected us from any loss of monies during the negotiations. I think we hashed enough on this topic. What I recommend that all interested DSA members speak with the Lieutenants that were affected by the loss of the take-home cars. It’s that easy.

            In regards to the nominees, you didn’t mention anything about how you felt about Tracey. I think he deserves your input as well.

            As I will always live and die by these words:

            God Bless America and Every Member of the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office.

            A Very Proud Deputy!!!

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  2. http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/overcoming-stubborn-obstacles

    I was doing my routine Saturday morning reading while waiting for my kids to finish their workout class. I glanced over this article. I didn’t know why, but I correlated it with our current DSA Board. You need to read the article first, then agree or disagree with my correlation.

    I saw the South African Government as our DSA Board when we ask them for clarification or directly ask them a question, they’ll dance around it or tell us they will investigate.

    For example:
    They were directly asked whether or not, they’ve contacted the Agency in question (within our southern part of our County) and told them that our guys will not work for their big event. They denied any and all and took a step further by saying they will investigate this issue. That contact had cost us six additional positions each day on the weekend (totaling 12 positions). This concern was addressed during our Tuesday July 30th at 1730 hrs meeting at the POA hall. As of today, No answer has been received. In the same meeting, another member asked if the board had contacted the Chief of yet another City that is looking for additional event personnel to assist them in future events. The VP replied, we can’t speak about this at this time. It seems that every time we question their tactics or lack of, they’ll give us the same empty promises and continue to do what one person that seems to be running the DSA with her vengeance against the Sheriff’s Office. We are the Sheriff’s Office not one disgruntled has-been that is ready to go to pasture. What I say to her is go and enjoy your retirement let the DSA Board think on their own two feet. We need the newer deputies to be more involved in the DSA. Because you are our future not the one that’s ready to be put to pasture. Keep politics out of our business. Let’s stay united and keep the outside influence out of our everyday business. I can almost promise you, by getting rid of the bad influence that’s controlling our board; we will see a change. A change for the better. I’ve experienced this with the old CPOA were they’ve started being disgruntle, then the grievances started until they’ve started to file law suits. In my opinion, that’s why the county didn’t treat them as well as us when their contract was up. We need negotiators not disgruntle grievance writers. I’m calling a membership wide Code-30 to help and guide the DSA board. Make your own decisions. Don’t allow the disgruntle, one person that’s ready to be put out to pasture, control the Board.

    BE INVOLVED, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS….

    God Bless America and all members of the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office.

    A Very Proud Deputy!!!

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    • Dave was one of my choices too!! It’s amazing…..we actually agree on something! He would make a fantastic choice too, but ultimately I don’t think he would be interested. It’s nice to see you reading these comments. Who knows, maybe you will take them to heart and address/implement some. I of course have a few that should be at the top of your list. 1). Pull “your” candidate from the DSA nomination. 2) begin to fairly & justly punish your “good ol boys” for all their wrongs they’ve committed (and still do) and lastly……..while we’re at it……throw your time and energy behind the next Sheriff……Kevin Jensen!!!

      I’d like to thank you for taking the time to not only read these posts, but to actually provide your comments. Feel free to continue. I mean, it’s all about building bridges and keeping the lines of communications open, right?? 😉

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  3. Thank “WTF” for responding. I actually wish the DSA would open a blog so that these issues could be discussed there (hint,hint, hint)

    Regarding your statement asking if we really want someone with “crap” in their closet or someone above reproach leading the DSA? I feel confident in saying we ALL have “crap” in our closet. Unless we live and operate under a rock no one is free from this. Even the next Sheriff (of course it’s gonna be Kevin Jensen) tells of mistakes he’s made over the years. However KJ goes on to say he has learned from his mistakes and used them to transform himself into a better person. Morrisey is no different. Having personally known him for over a decade, I have seen him make mistakes, but he’s also affected lots of people and events in a positive manner (much more than the negative). He has used his trials and tribulations to look inside himself and form an honest assessment of where he’s been and ultimately where he’d like to go. Who among us (including you “WTF”) can say we are the same person we were 10 years ago,5 years, 2 years or even last year? It’s true, some people never change or evolve into a “better” person (just walk into the 4th floor of HQ and blindly start pointing your finger around and you can’t help but point at numerous examples of this) but if your not willing to believe that people can use hardships in their lives to affect positive change then we’re all in trouble. Thank you “WTF” for at least participating in this forum. I only wish more people would do the same.

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    • You are correct, time heals but as far as Morrisey how much time has their been, 6 months, maybe after a few years but not after 6 months.

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      • I understand and respect your opinion. I guess each of us will need to determine if events (actually over a year ago) from the past can make us stronger or continue to be used to hold us back. Each person needs to decide if actions (that were already dealt with and punishment served) from the past should continue to be used against us. If so, then I guess we’re no better than good ol Captain Dan Rodriguez who still holds a deputy to the fire for an event 10+ years ago and thereby denies him a promotion and insults him because of a mistake he made. I wholeheartedly believe that Morrisey is the man for the job exactly because he has been through a lot and has looked inward instead of looking for others to blame. Hold these same standards against the other candidates and see how it plays out. Thanks again for your time to comment. Go Kevin Jensen & go Don Morrisey!!

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  4. I couldn’t agree more with the above statements. This is a pivotal vote for the DSA since every executive board position is up for grabs. As members, we owe it to ourselves and our other members to put forth the candidate who will stand strong in the face of adversity and when thingd gets contentious they stay the course. There were several good candidates put forth. However, Casey’s comment re: having the Sheriff “pick” who our candidate will be was very prophetic. Without naming names, there was a candidate offered up out of the blue (the person who nominated him had never been to a DSA meeting before) and that candidate has been noticeably absent from any and all DSA & Kevin Jensen functions since being promoted. Now we can all understand why this occurred….self preservation. There are a few issues however that I have with this. Where does this “left field” candidates allegiance truly belong? He was quoted as asking why we didn’t allow the sheriff the opportunity to speak to us before we backed Kevin Jensen (coincidentally this occurred right after being promoted). Why didn’t we???? It’s simple really….she’s had 12 years to talk to us and get it right but has failed miserably. This candidate still takes no stance on supporting (or not) Kevin Jensen. So that begs the question, would this “left field” candidate truly have our best interest at heart when dealing with the Sheriff and her piss poor admin? Based upon his lack of intestinal fortitude and refusal to stand up for his personal beliefs (now I’m assuming that he even backs Kevin Jensen) what sort of DSA president would he make??? The answer…..a terrible one. One that’s easily swayed and intimidated of possible repercussions to his personal stature. That’s not the kind of person we want/need as our president. That’s why Don Morrisey is the only candidate on the board worthy of the position. He’s been here long enough to have experienced a lot and has the charisma to work with the various groups that the president will interact with. Most importantly, he’s not afraid to stand up, make his voice heard and displays courage in the face of a borderline corrupt administration. Make sure you vote, don’t be intimidated!!! We’re cops after all!!!

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      • So I’m assuming he can’t count on your vote then?? So I’d be interested in hearing who you’d support (unless I missed it in your detailed comment) or are you the typical employee with lots to say, but no substance to offer? Is your office on the 4th floor? 😉

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      • Yes he might go after the Sheriff after punishing him but do we really want people with crap in their closets or someone who is above reproach as a leader of the DSA. No not on the 4th floor, avoided that trap as much as possible. I would tell you who I would like but he might not want the blowback of being named here.

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